Wells Fargo projects record $3 billion 1Q profit
Wells Fargo says it expects 1st-quarter profit of $3B, easily surpassing expectations
Thursday April 9, 2009, 8:53 am EDT
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NEW YORK (AP) -- Wells Fargo & Co. said Thursday that it expects record first-quarter earnings of $3 billion, easily surpassing analysts' estimates and providing an encouraging sign for corporate profits.
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{"s" : "c,gs,jpm,wfc","k" : "c10,l10,p20,t10","o" : "","j" : ""} Wells Fargo is the first bank to provide a forecast for first-quarter results, and the unexpectedly upbeat news gave an immediate boost to stock futures. Several pessimistic forecasts about potential loan losses have jolted the market in recent days, and investors have been anxious as Citigroup Inc., Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co. all report next week.
Wells Fargo's stock rose $3.86, or 25.9 percent, to $18.75 in electronic premarket trading, while stock futures also jumped.
San Francisco-based Wells Fargo, which has receive $25 billion in funds as part of the government's bank bailout plan, anticipates earnings after preferred dividends of about 55 cents per share. Revenue for the period ended March 31 is expected to climb 16 percent to $20 billion.
Analysts polled by Thomson Reuters forecast profit of 23 cents per share on revenue of $19 billion. Analysts' estimates typically exclude one-time items.
Wells Fargo had earned $2 billion during the first quarter last year.
Chief Financial Officer Howard Atkins says the results "reflected strength in our traditional banking businesses, strong capital markets activities, and exceptionally strong mortgage banking results." The company also credited its Wachovia acquisition, which was completed Jan. 1.
Charge-offs are expected to total $3.3 billion for the first quarter, compared with a combined $6.1 billion between Wells Fargo and Wachovia during the fourth quarter. .
Wells Fargo reports quarterly results on April 22.
Wells Fargo says it expects 1st-quarter profit of $3B, easily surpassing expectations
Thursday April 9, 2009, 8:53 am EDT
Buzz up! Print Related:Citigroup, Inc., Goldman Sachs Group Inc., JPMorgan Chase & Co.
NEW YORK (AP) -- Wells Fargo & Co. said Thursday that it expects record first-quarter earnings of $3 billion, easily surpassing analysts' estimates and providing an encouraging sign for corporate profits.
Related Quotes
Symbol Price Change
C 2.70 0.00
GS 114.75 0.00
JPM 27.43 0.00
WFC 14.89 0.00
{"s" : "c,gs,jpm,wfc","k" : "c10,l10,p20,t10","o" : "","j" : ""} Wells Fargo is the first bank to provide a forecast for first-quarter results, and the unexpectedly upbeat news gave an immediate boost to stock futures. Several pessimistic forecasts about potential loan losses have jolted the market in recent days, and investors have been anxious as Citigroup Inc., Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co. all report next week.
Wells Fargo's stock rose $3.86, or 25.9 percent, to $18.75 in electronic premarket trading, while stock futures also jumped.
San Francisco-based Wells Fargo, which has receive $25 billion in funds as part of the government's bank bailout plan, anticipates earnings after preferred dividends of about 55 cents per share. Revenue for the period ended March 31 is expected to climb 16 percent to $20 billion.
Analysts polled by Thomson Reuters forecast profit of 23 cents per share on revenue of $19 billion. Analysts' estimates typically exclude one-time items.
Wells Fargo had earned $2 billion during the first quarter last year.
Chief Financial Officer Howard Atkins says the results "reflected strength in our traditional banking businesses, strong capital markets activities, and exceptionally strong mortgage banking results." The company also credited its Wachovia acquisition, which was completed Jan. 1.
Charge-offs are expected to total $3.3 billion for the first quarter, compared with a combined $6.1 billion between Wells Fargo and Wachovia during the fourth quarter. .
Wells Fargo reports quarterly results on April 22.
9/4 2009 17:18 le 0
7486 soros om bankpakkerne
http://finance.yahoo.com/techticker/article/228458/Soros:-Obama-
http://finance.yahoo.com/techticker/article/228458/Soros:-Obama-
Ja det er lige det jeg har gået og spekuleret over...rekord profitter i 1.kvartal fra amerikanske banker, meget spændende....Men er markedet åben i US??
9/4 2009 17:59 arbitrader 07491 Ja der er åbent i US i dag, men lukket i morgen. Det lader vist til at blive en glad påske derovre.
9/4 2009 19:13 CHjort 07497 Earnings and Market Behavior - (Fra: MarketClub)
April 9, 2009 · By Kenny · Filed Under Guest Bloggers
Today a good friend of mine John Bougearel of Financial Futures Analysis will share with us his trend strategy during 2009 Earnings Season. Take a look, then let us know how earnings effect your trading.
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The SP500 NFP +1 Day Model for April 3: In Advance of the Q1 09 Earnings Season Model
A longstanding behavioral finance model that I use considers the release of an important announcement plus one or two days. The flipside of this is model is the release of an important announcement minus a day or two. In this instance, we are considering is the NFP +1 day model. A second perhaps more important model to address is how the pricing of the SP 500 during the Q1 09 earnings season might or might not correlate to the pricing model Q4 08 earnings model. The two are interrelated and must be considered together.
The SP500 NFP +1 Day Model for April 3
In the NFP model, we want to note there is a strong tendency for the stock market to peak or trough on or around the 6th of the month ever since the Nov 4 election. The 6th of the month coincides with NFP announcements. We also want to note that in Jan, Feb, and April, the stock market rallied all week long during the week of the NFP announcements. The NFP rally in January extended two days into the next week. The NFP rally in Feb extended one day into the next week. The NFP rally in April extended one day into next week as well. It wasn’t until the following week that the bear market resumed following the respective rallies into the Jan and Feb NFP reports! Incidentally, both the Feb 9 and April 6 highs were 4 points above Feb 6 and April 3 NFP highs ~ that was the kicker “telltale.”
And worse, technically the rally into April 6 has done nothing to change the bear trend at all. The April 6 high neither took out a prior high, and in fact, was perfectly symmetrical to the 27% rally into Jan 6 2009 ahead of the Q1 earnings season. So, if this is all that we were to consider, we would have to say, that the downside risks far exceed the upside risks near term and that the bear trend is about to resume. These correlation studies are scary stuff to be sure and imply portfolio managers should proceed with extreme caution and consider hedging their portfolios against another wicked downdraft.
However, offsetting these bearish considerations are the earnings announcements for the financial sector that will transpire next week. The earnings from the financial sector next week could make the outcome from the April 6 high not quite as bearish as the outcomes from the Jan and Feb highs. Correlation studies are intended to show how history rhymes and that is the easy part. The hard part is to discern what substantive current events have transpired that weakens correlations to the past and which may make future outcomes substantively different than the past.
Under the present scenario, we already know the results of the Q1 09 earnings season for the financials that will be substantially improved over that of Q4 08. In Q4 08, financials had to take huge writedowns. Lawmakers, eliminated the FV accounting rule on April 2, so that financials do not have to mark their toxic assets to market in Q1 09. Now, they can put any price they deem appropriate using their own “substantive judgment.” Yes, price discovery has been trampled underfoot, and this will boost financials as-reported profits by some 20% or more according to some analysts.
Even more importantly, many of the financial firms that helped create the financial mess we are in are going to enjoy a one-time taxpayer funded windfall from AIG this quarter. In mid-March, AIG admitted roughly $50 billion in taxpayer dollars went to Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Bank of America, Wachovia and Morgan Stanley.
Goldman Sachs reports earnings on Tuesday April 14 and on Monday April 20th, Bank of America reports.
The bottom line is that these financial firms from Tuesday April 14 to Monday April 20 should buoy the SP500 as long as it stays above last weeks lows at 775 this week rather than expecting the stock market trade lower into the 20th of the month like we did during the January earnings season, we trade higher into the 20th of April.
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John Bougearel is the author of Riding the Storm Out, a book on the effects the subprime crisis. Be sure to check him out at Financial Futures Analysis.
April 9, 2009 · By Kenny · Filed Under Guest Bloggers
Today a good friend of mine John Bougearel of Financial Futures Analysis will share with us his trend strategy during 2009 Earnings Season. Take a look, then let us know how earnings effect your trading.
===================================================
The SP500 NFP +1 Day Model for April 3: In Advance of the Q1 09 Earnings Season Model
A longstanding behavioral finance model that I use considers the release of an important announcement plus one or two days. The flipside of this is model is the release of an important announcement minus a day or two. In this instance, we are considering is the NFP +1 day model. A second perhaps more important model to address is how the pricing of the SP 500 during the Q1 09 earnings season might or might not correlate to the pricing model Q4 08 earnings model. The two are interrelated and must be considered together.
The SP500 NFP +1 Day Model for April 3
In the NFP model, we want to note there is a strong tendency for the stock market to peak or trough on or around the 6th of the month ever since the Nov 4 election. The 6th of the month coincides with NFP announcements. We also want to note that in Jan, Feb, and April, the stock market rallied all week long during the week of the NFP announcements. The NFP rally in January extended two days into the next week. The NFP rally in Feb extended one day into the next week. The NFP rally in April extended one day into next week as well. It wasn’t until the following week that the bear market resumed following the respective rallies into the Jan and Feb NFP reports! Incidentally, both the Feb 9 and April 6 highs were 4 points above Feb 6 and April 3 NFP highs ~ that was the kicker “telltale.”
And worse, technically the rally into April 6 has done nothing to change the bear trend at all. The April 6 high neither took out a prior high, and in fact, was perfectly symmetrical to the 27% rally into Jan 6 2009 ahead of the Q1 earnings season. So, if this is all that we were to consider, we would have to say, that the downside risks far exceed the upside risks near term and that the bear trend is about to resume. These correlation studies are scary stuff to be sure and imply portfolio managers should proceed with extreme caution and consider hedging their portfolios against another wicked downdraft.
However, offsetting these bearish considerations are the earnings announcements for the financial sector that will transpire next week. The earnings from the financial sector next week could make the outcome from the April 6 high not quite as bearish as the outcomes from the Jan and Feb highs. Correlation studies are intended to show how history rhymes and that is the easy part. The hard part is to discern what substantive current events have transpired that weakens correlations to the past and which may make future outcomes substantively different than the past.
Under the present scenario, we already know the results of the Q1 09 earnings season for the financials that will be substantially improved over that of Q4 08. In Q4 08, financials had to take huge writedowns. Lawmakers, eliminated the FV accounting rule on April 2, so that financials do not have to mark their toxic assets to market in Q1 09. Now, they can put any price they deem appropriate using their own “substantive judgment.” Yes, price discovery has been trampled underfoot, and this will boost financials as-reported profits by some 20% or more according to some analysts.
Even more importantly, many of the financial firms that helped create the financial mess we are in are going to enjoy a one-time taxpayer funded windfall from AIG this quarter. In mid-March, AIG admitted roughly $50 billion in taxpayer dollars went to Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Bank of America, Wachovia and Morgan Stanley.
Goldman Sachs reports earnings on Tuesday April 14 and on Monday April 20th, Bank of America reports.
The bottom line is that these financial firms from Tuesday April 14 to Monday April 20 should buoy the SP500 as long as it stays above last weeks lows at 775 this week rather than expecting the stock market trade lower into the 20th of the month like we did during the January earnings season, we trade higher into the 20th of April.
====================================================
John Bougearel is the author of Riding the Storm Out, a book on the effects the subprime crisis. Be sure to check him out at Financial Futures Analysis.
10/4 2009 23:02 alpehue 07619 Kære Le,
ingen kritik at dit indlæg, men se min frustration
der er ingen, der har svaret på det, du har fremført om Fargo Wells
ej heller om det skal købes eller sælges !
[smil]
ingen kritik at dit indlæg, men se min frustration
der er ingen, der har svaret på det, du har fremført om Fargo Wells
ej heller om det skal købes eller sælges !
[smil]
Her lidt ekstra indsigt i WFC´s regnskab...
http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/apr2009/pi2009049_357888.htm?campaign_id=rss_null
http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/apr2009/pi2009049_357888.htm?campaign_id=rss_null
11/4 2009 22:54 loevquist 07682 Det er ganske enkelt en skandale, at man i USA har ændret revisionsreglerne, så firmaerne frit kan prissætte deres lorteaktiver. Markedet vil formentlig stige efter endnu en amerikansk bank fremlægger et hult rekordsregnskab, men på sigt kan det blive rigtig giftigt for amerikanske financials.
12/4 2009 17:47 arbitrader 07710 Det er vel underordnet. For det første er der tale om ex post information, der ikke har indflydelse på aktiens prissætning, og for det andet må man vel gå ud fra at markedet er tilstrækkeligt efficient til at indregne de regelændringer.
