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40772 le 30/3 2011 17:37

ja vi har det V-recovery jeg forudsagde for 1½ år siden pga stigningerne i salgt af biler, eleketronik og meget andet i emerging markets

men hvor er de trist at man skriver at emerging markets output er steget fra 18 til 26% af det globale output, når sandheden er at den ligger på 70%

det er et godt eksempel på at verdenen er domineet af falske økonomer og andet, der ikke kan vurdere verden som den ser ud i virkeligheden og de fleste plaprer troligt alt det ligegyldige og forkerte lort efter munden fra de store institutioner, der er dinosaurer

Developing economies' lead over rivals poses risks
As emerging economies grow faster than developed nations, economists point to risks

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FILE - In tis Feb. 28, 2011 file photo, workers heads back to a construction site after their lunch break in Beijing. Never before have China, India and other developing economies grown so much faster than the United States, Japan and the rich countries of Europe. To an unprecedented degree, developing countries that once looked to the United States to lead the world economy are themselves driving the recovery from the worst downturn since the 1930s. (AP Photo/Andy Wong, file)

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{"s" : "cat,gm","k" : "a00,a50,b00,b60,c10,g00,h00,l10,p20,t10,v00","o" : "","j" : ""} Paul Wiseman, AP Economics Writer, On Wednesday March 30, 2011, 11:02 am
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The world's biggest economies are recovering from the Great Recession at troublesome speeds: too fast or too slow.

China, India and other major developing countries quickly returned to breakneck rates of growth after escaping the worst of the economic downturn in 2008 and 2009. Their rapid recoveries showed for the first time that emerging economies have grown big and strong enough to thrive independently while the United States and other rich countries struggle.

And today, to an unprecedented degree, the developing world is driving the global recovery, instead of relying on the United States for economic leadership as it used to. This picture emerges from The Associated Press' new Global Economy Tracker, a quarterly analysis of 22 countries that account for more than 80 percent of the world's economic output.

The shakeup in the world's economic order has taken 30 years. The developing world's share of global economic output has risen from 18 percent in 1980 to 26 percent last year, the World Bank says. So growth in emerging markets now has a far bigger effect on the world's economic performance.

Leading the transformation is China, an economic backwater three decades ago that last year replaced Japan as the world's second-biggest economy. Japan, after more than a decade of stagnation, is struggling again in the aftermath of the earthquake and nuclear disaster that struck earlier this month.

Rapid growth in emerging economies has lifted hundreds of millions of people out of poverty and created vast consumer markets for U.S. goods and services. At the same time, "this two-track world poses some unusual risks," warns Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz of Columbia University. He and others fear that too much money flowing to developing economies is driving up commodity prices and inflating dangerous bubbles in emerging market stocks and housing prices.

Rapid growth in the developing world is also pulling jobs and investment from the United States and other rich countries. And it's fanning international disputes over trade and currencies.

The AP Global Economy Tracker found that:

-- The fastest-growing countries -- China, India, Indonesia -- are all in the developing world. The slowest are all European: Spain, Italy and Britain. The United States ranks 12th among the 20 largest economies plus Argentina and South Africa.

-- Speedy growth is triggering inflation in emerging countries. The countries where consumer prices rose the most last year were Argentina, India and Russia.

-- High unemployment is plaguing rich countries. At the end of 2010, unemployment was more than 20 percent in Spain, 9.6 percent in the European Union as a whole and 9.4 percent in the United States. (The U.S. rate fell to 9 percent in January and 8.9 percent in February.) In contrast, the unemployment rate was 5.3 percent in Brazil.

In the past, the developing world depended on advanced economies -- particularly the United States -- to generate global growth, which trickled down to them when the rich countries bought their exports. And when rich countries faltered, poorer ones suffered too.

"The conventional wisdom was when we went into recession, they went into recession," says Robert Lawrence, professor of trade policy at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government.

The Great Recession overturned the old relationship. Emerging economies dodged the housing crisis that froze credit markets in the United States and Europe and threw the rich world into the worst downturn since the 1930s. Developing countries just kept growing, though more slowly.

They never had to bail out their banks or endure the high unemployment and stagnant growth that historically follow financial crises. India's heavily regulated banks never made disastrous bets on the U.S. subprime mortgage market.

Neither did China's, which are almost all owned by the government. As fear paralyzed financial markets in the rich world, Beijing simply ordered state-run banks to keep lending to support the Chinese economy. And they did, unleashing more than $1.4 trillion in new loans in 2009 alone -- a year when bank lending fell in the United States.

In 2009, developing countries continued to expand, eking out 2.6 percent growth, while rich economies shrank 3.4 percent. Last year, developing countries grew 7.1 percent, rich ones 3 percent. And this year the International Monetary Fund expects developing countries to outgrow the rich world 6.5 percent to 2.5 percent.

Japan's wealthy economy faces new uncertainty after the quake and a tsunami devastated the country's northeastern coastline and raised the threat of radioactive contamination at a damaged nuclear plant.

The World Bank says developing economies accounted for 45 percent of global growth last year, the first full year since recession ended in June 2009. They contributed just 14 percent of worldwide growth in the first full year after the deep 1981-82 recession, 11 percent after the 1990-91 recession and 38 percent after the 2001 recession, World Bank numbers show.

Rich countries continue to lag because of their devastating financial crisis. Their banks are still writing off bad debts. Their governments are saddled with gaping deficits -- the result of shrunken tax revenue, the cost of bailing out banking systems, rising health care costs and the need to stimulate their economies. U.S. consumers are still paying the bills they charged up during the mid-2000s debt binge.

Nearly 14 million Americans are unemployed, 1.8 million of them for two years or more. They're people like John Dail Galvin, who lost a computer specialist job at a health care company in December 2008. Galvin, 48, has burned through savings and unemployment benefits. He says he's facing a foreclosure on his house in McHenry, Ill.

"I've been working since I was 15 years old," he says. "I've never seen it this bad."

Britain, Ireland and Spain have cut spending, raised taxes or both to narrow budget gaps. The United States, slowed by a budget deficit that could reach a record $1.65 trillion this year, is debating its own spending cuts. The World Bank warns that austerity measures will trim 0.7 percentage points from growth in rich countries this year and 0.4 percentage points in 2012.

Unburdened by a financial crisis, China, India and other developing countries resumed fast growth as they continued their transition from agricultural to industrial economies. In fact, they're now generating their own growth instead of relying on exports to the rich world. The World Bank says, for example, that internal demand -- including business investments, government programs and consumer spending -- accounted for 80 percent of China's growth last year.

"The emergence of a huge middle class in both China and India is generating internal demand," says Lawrence, co-author of the forthcoming book "Rising Tide: Is Growth in Emerging Markets Good for the United States?"

An example, in the southern Chinese city of Dongguan, is Xu Maolin, 31. Working as a mid-level manager at a factory that makes medical equipment, auto parts and aircraft components, Xu earns more than $7,200 a year -- a middle-class living in a country where the per-capita income is $3,650.

A decade ago, Xu left a poor farm village in central China for a job at the Dongguan factory at $100 a month. His wife and two children live in a house he bought in his home village. He also owns an apartment in Dongguan that he rents to other migrant workers.

Xu has an air-conditioned room to himself in the factory dormitory. After work, he logs onto his desktop computer to read news, download movies and chat with friends and family.

For all its benefits, fast growth is causing problems for China and other developing countries. Surging demand for commodities -- oil, grain, steel -- is pushing prices ever higher. Inflation is running near 5 percent in China, over 9 percent in India and near 11 percent in Argentina, AP's Global Economy Tracker found. Inflation in the United States was just 1.9 percent last year.

"I don't feel I'm any better off than, say, last year," says Li, a waiter in Beijing who would give only his surname. "My salary might have gone up a little bit this year. But the prices of everything just went up like crazy."

The developing world's financial markets are drawing cash from rich countries. The U.S. Federal Reserve and other central banks have pushed interest rates to record-low levels to stimulate their sluggish economies.

As investors in search of higher returns snap up Asian stocks and real estate, they risk creating dangerous asset bubbles. To cool speculative fever, policymakers from Bangkok to Brasilia have been imposing taxes on foreign investors and raising interest rates. In January, Brazil's central bank raised its rate for overnight lending from 10.75 percent to 11.25 percent. In the U.S., the rate is only about 0.15 percent.

China and other developing countries could fight inflation by letting their currencies rise rapidly -- a move that would drive down the price of imported goods. But they are reluctant to do so because stronger currencies would make their own exports more expensive and less competitive in other countries. China is especially resistant to sacrificing exports by letting its currency, the yuan, appreciate quickly. Exports account for about 30 percent of China's economic output, versus about 11 percent of the U.S. economy.

Congress has threatened to impose tariffs on Chinese goods if China won't relent on its currency. The threats are raising fears of a trade rift between the world's two biggest economies.

U.S. heavy-equipment maker Caterpillar says it frets that the divide between fast- and slow-growing countries is eroding the cooperation that served international policymaking at the depths of the recession. Caterpillar, which generates 68 percent of its revenue overseas, warns that a global recovery could be derailed by disputes over trade and currency.

The growth gap between emerging economies and developed nations may even be feeding on itself: U.S. companies are shifting jobs overseas to take advantage of cheaper labor and to be closer to their fastest-growing markets. Between 1999 and 2008, U.S. multinationals slashed 1.1 million jobs in the United States and added 2.4 million overseas, including more than 520,000 in China alone, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.

Consider General Motors. Last year, for the first time, GM sold more vehicles in China than in the United States. But 99 percent of the 2.35 million vehicles GM sold in China were made in Chinese factories by Chinese workers; just 11,796 were made in the United States.

In some ways, though, the United States is benefiting from the rise of living standards and consumer markets in China, India and other developing countries.

Exports have been one of the U.S. economy's strengths as it strains to climb back from the Great Recession. The United States last year exported $1.29 trillion in goods, up nearly 21 percent from 2009. A record $92 billion worth of U.S. goods went to China.

"We're going to be looking to consumers in China and Brazil and elsewhere as new engines for the global recovery," says Lael Brainard, the Treasury Department's undersecretary for international affairs.

Associated Press Writers Sharon Silke Carty in Detroit, Zhao Liang in Beijing and Anita Chang in Dongguan, China, contributed to this report.

30/3 2011 17:43 pete45 040773

bortset fra der ikke er et V recovery er det da meget fint, flere af elementerne i et globalt V recovery er ikke tilstede, så før de er opfyldt er det bare et recovery.....

Ud over det ser det ud til at Japan kommer til at trække global growth ned

30/3 2011 17:51 le 040774

man kan jo ikke tage det du siger alvorligt

du siger jo altid imod uanset hvad man siger for derefter at man på konstartere at du har taget fejl, men det kan du vel ikke selv se

30/3 2011 17:59 le 040775

når 70% af verden vokser med 8-10% og 30% vokser med 2-3%, hvor meget vokser verden så?

30/3 2011 21:41 vouskootia 140779

Nu er der jo nok ikke en fast definition paa et V-recovery...
Men synes nu ogsaa at LE's 'definition' afviger meget fra resten af den finansielle verdens opfattelse af ordet.
Ordet er som cloud, web2.0, totalt udvandet og har ingen vaerdi laengere.....
I loebet af det sidste aars tid har du vist cyklet ind og ud af markedet (iflg. hvad jeg husker af dine udmeldinger omkring kontant-andel) - saa du er 'covered' paa begge argumenter :-) Men det er ogsaa saadan markedet har vaeret - og er - usikkert og svaert at bedoemme - og med spredt recovery - ogsaa sektors og lande der er roeget i hullet, eller status quo... og nogle der er boomet helt vildt...
Egentlig helt fint og mange muligheder - og du/oa. kan helt sikkert finde gode muligheder at tjene penge paa dette....

30/3 2011 22:21 le 040780

mit V-recovery er en betegnelse for et globalt V-recovery i industriproduktionen, hvor gennemsnittet af alle lande gøres op efter deres andel af industriproduktionen og der udgør emerging markets ca 70% af den globale industri produktion målt i mængder og de har i gennemsnit en vækst på 8-10% i industriproduktionen

V-recovery har ikke noget med aktiemarkedes udvikling at gøre, men kun udviklingen i industriproduktionen, hvor stigningerne i aktiekurserne selvfølgelig har bidraget til at skabe denne vækst pga den stigende købekraft

31/3 2011 05:08 pete45 040786

Det er vel nærmere dine definitioner som er noget pladder, inden man udtaler sig om noget er det måske en meget god ide at checke hvad det er man lirer af.

V recovery forfindes ikke p.t. ud fra kendte normer, så hvad du selv har opfundet af pladder teser, bør du vel ikke belemre andre med da det ikke er brugbart. Såfremt du vil komme med nye definitioner, burde du vel søge ved en lidt højere instands for at få dem godkendt... Boligmarked og arbejdsløshed hører til blandt de ting som kendetegner et v recovery.... og de er vist ikke rigtigt fuldt med.

31/3 2011 10:23 le 040798

hvad med de to cifrede millioner af boliger man bygger i kina og i kina er der mangel på arbejdskraft og stærkt stigende beskæftigelse og det samme i hele asien og latinamerika

31/3 2011 11:17 Conner 140801

Du kredser om Kina, og måske med god grund.
Der er altså også torne på roserne.

-Inflationen er stigende og ligger pt. på 5%

-Handelsbalancen er pt. negativ. Sidste gang var i 2010 (efter finanskrisen), før det i 2004 (efter

- Forbrugertilliden er faldende, og har ikke været så lav siden 2009 (efter finanskrise), og før det 2003 (efter

- Til gengæld er virksomhedstilliden stigende og høj, og væksten høj.

Global recovery bør der nok også ses på de største økonomier som Japan, US og EU. Vækstmarkeder er måske interessante investeringsmæssigt, men de andre skal med i et globalt recovery.

31/3 2011 12:49 pete45 040803

Der er ingen mangel paa arbejdskraft i Kina det er en skroene............... Hvad med det overhang som er af boliger i resten af verdenen...

Faa dig lidt overblik istedet for at vaere snaeversynet